Nintendo’s legendary designer Shigeru Miyamoto revealed in a new interview that the Kyoto-based company aims to have one 30+ million pieces of software sold every three to five years. Nintendo has had four Switch games cross that threshold since the system’s launch in March 2017. Those games are Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (61.97 million), Animal Crossing: New Horizons (45.36 million) Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (34.22 million) The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (31.85 million) Shigesato Itoi, who was also part of the interview, said that “when Miyamoto-san works on a project, he can rate it on a scale like . This one can aim for 30 million units or this one will probably sell around 480,000 units. Not that he clearly knows that, but he has to think to that extent.”