Greetings from Josh and Gita

Today, Joshua Rivera and Gita Jackson are both gone Kotaku. They sat down to talk about what they liked about the area, as well as the state of the news media and its diversity, resilience and creativity.

Joshua Rivera: There are not many opportunities for this. There is good reason for that. We don't have to be story-but also saying some things out loud, it helps.

Gita Jackson: I think most young students, college students, will enjoy reading this. It's impossible not to notice the absence of Brown's people in this space. I have friends with many sports journalists in New York City who are people of color. You know, like when we see one up here, we try to meet them because there are so many of us. So it's like, it's impossible not to know. I mean I get messages from young black women telling me that seeing me make them feel more confident about getting into video games. Part of me wants to be like, wow, thanks, that's annoying. And the other part of me wants to be like, THIS IS EASY, WHY WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS GIFT?

Josh: This line-part of this, is also capitalist, right? But it doesn't make sense in things that look like rape or otherwise, you know what I mean? Everyone talks about how diversity is good and they will give you all these goals, such as mathematical reasons why it's good. But traditionally, no one wants that. They just want to associate with people like them.

Gita: I don't think video games are less racist or less racist than the rest of society. We see it clearly because it is a small community and also, very attached. And I think the video game segmentation has encouraged the kind of scale-up that can be given that leads people to become overly invested in a commercial product to the point where they feel they need to protect big-dollar companies. And that's something that I think is more toxic than just the arm-directed discrimination, is this really blooming, powerless, economically-minded idea that is deeply rooted in video games and the people who make it. It's just a dollar game. And it's about organizations that are about organizations. And to treat those companies as human beings. And that is something that captures video games and holds people who love video games far more than anything.

Josh: I think you were talking about how, not that games are more racist or smaller than the rest of society. It's just that the games are set in such a way that fans of the video game have a tendency to believe that nothing's going wrong. Is that right? Where most people can look at the world and be like, you know, O—

Gita: "There are things wrong."

Josh: Some things are wrong! You know, like, "The NFL has to be more concerned about getting together."

Gita: Let me be real for one moment. I never thought of that Kotaku would you ever want to hire me? I am a very multifaceted person and many of my ideas are very active in founding. It was just this year that people started to take seriously the discussion of solidarity. But yes, I mean, my views on how culture should work are very different than most people who have a passion for video games.

Josh: I also had this weird, um, idea Kotaku Because, as you said, the media as a whole, tends to behave ethically because it allows you some kind of stability in an unstable industry.

I was in my first job interviewing my hero, and he had just turned 50, and he was telling me, & # 39; OK, I just realized you weren't fighting with everyone, you know? & # 39; I'm still in my twenties, so I'm still learning that lesson, but it's difficult and that's why there was participation in taking on a project like this. When you are an individual, you can have this trick about yourself, how to be more bullshit or fight it by not participating in the program no matter what kind of money you take, you know? And then when you get a job – you get this misconception like, I'm right about everything that this institution does. You know? So it's nice to hear that you have been working so hard.

It meant a lot to me that you had been there for so long, you know, that might not seem so far in the grand scheme of things, but in the media, it's a lifetime. There’s something very basic of personality, I think, for your writing that sticks with me. It made me sound like there was a space for me to be able to do what I wanted to do here.

Gita: What I liked most about your writing and the fact that you care about people and is very clear in your writing. And your understanding of energy systems has tremendous potential. The way you see it through bullshit is something I really like. They do not waste complicated words, they do not give people the benefit of the doubt when you see bulshit; you call it bulshit. And I think that's something the industry needs a lot, a lot more. And so I'm very happy to know you and understand what your goals are. Here I was with a person who was willing to go straight to the industry for a while, sounding like "the emperor has no clothes". Like every single day you are just a child saying no clothes are overweight.

It's not as complimentary as calling your writing humane, but I can't – thanks. Thank you. Anyway, I think it's just like, I'm like jealous sometimes when you say something I want to say, but I'm afraid to say that it takes a lot of courage because people don't pray so much for the industry and so little that if you release people, they'll remember. But you're not afraid of that and you're always right. Or do not think Horizon Zero Dawn

Josh: One of the things I have learned from you, the reason I have never been involved in any union or organization or anything like that, is the idea of ​​being involved to protect yourself, but also to be aware of the needs of others. So, as there is this painful desire to be abused by these people, you know that we must be at war with them, but we also have partners to think about.

Gita: I love all the working people Kotaku. And when I say love, I mean love. Since I've been complaining about the idea of ​​not working with them basically for a whole month. And when I think to breathe, it means big fat, wet tears, not my nose bleeding. Just the misery of abortion. So I like to talk to you because of the above, considering the time of conflict and people decide you will be the best you can be. I feel that way deeply Kotaku nature, it always goes externally with two small middle fingers. And it's like the strongest thing in the world.

Josh: I feel deprived of the opportunity to love this place to the best of your ability.

Gita: Can we just say that Jim Spanfeller has made it impossible for us to work here?

Josh: Yes, indeed.

Gita: His outright hostility toward the writers here, his treatment of Deadspin the writers, his shooting Barry, the way he talks Deadspin and how he would not tie up the closure even though it came from his worst management decisions, has already made my faith in the ability to keep the company resolved, and completely disbanded. And that's all. All of his choices.

Josh: There is no way I feel supported as a writer. I know Stephen Totilo, bless us, will go to the ends of the earth for us.

Gita: Hell yeah. He was going to fight the army. He is very concerned about his writers.

Josh: It's a shame that we don't have owners who care for a very small part. You know, I don't know, they don't shout our work. You don't care about our work.

Gita: I'm not even sure Jim Spanfeller knows he has a video game website.

Josh: I mean, he might know by now.

Gita: [laughs.] Yes. Sup dude. Hold it.